Hasan sits down with writer and journalist, Ta-Nehisi Coates, to talk about his latest Vanity Fair article, the difference between intelligence and wisdom, and the inherent violence of Empire.
PROGRAM CHAPTERS:
0:00 Introducing Ta-Nehisi Coates
3:19 Ad
4:15 The reaction to “Between the World and Me” vs. “The Message”
11:47 Hasan’s favorite passage from “The Message” 13:39 Confusing intellect for wisdom
17:51 Does America have good intentions?
19:09 Sincerely, President Donald Trump
21:48 Constraints on free speech creating your world 23:28 Do states have a right to exist?
27:00 Discussing “The Next Black President”
31:20 Thinking bigger to fight empire
33:56 What does “Empire” mean?
38:07 Kamala Harris at the 2024 DNC
43:00 Survival-ball
45:15 Blaming undecided voters
49:17 Does it have to be this way?
52:59 Will the progressive Democratic primary wins in New York change the whole party’s approach?
54:52 The 2026 midterm elections
1:00:01 Celebrity
1:05:14 Remaining open to the world
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Hasan Minhaj Doesn’t Know is a long-form interview podcast hosted by two-time Peabody Award-winning comedian Hasan Minhaj. The show features in-depth conversations with politicians, public figures, financial experts, scientists, intellectuals, authors and celebrities.
Rather than sticking to standard talking points, Minhaj aims to ask deeper, more probing questions that reveal personal perspectives and challenge conventional narratives. The tone is direct and curious, and focused on uncovering what guests really think beyond rehearsed answers.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
Ta-Nehisi Coates
Ta-Nehisi Coates is the author of The Beautiful Struggle, We Were Eight Years in Power, The Water Dancer, The Message, and Between the World and Me, which won the National Book Award in 2015. He is the recipient of a National Magazine Award and a MacArthur Fellowship. He is currently the Sterling Brown Endowed Chair in the English Department at Howard University and a contributing editor at Variety Fair.. See more from V.F.’s THE GREAT FIRE project here, which Coates guest-edited for the September 2020 issue.
Ta-Nehisi Coates
Ta-Nehisi Coates is the author of The Beautiful Struggle, We Were Eight Years in Power, The Water Dancer, The Message, and Between the World and Me, which won the National Book Award in 2015. He is the recipient of a National Magazine Award and a MacArthur Fellowship. He is currently the Sterling Brown Endowed Chair in the English Department at Howard University and a contributing editor at Variety Fair.. See more from V.F.’s THE GREAT FIRE project here, which Coates guest-edited for the September 2020 issue.
